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Find my other posts: College Aviation Programs Unsecured Flight Training Loans How to: Pay for Flight School On the the topic of ATP Flight School Training and Working as a Pilot in Other Countries ON ATP FLIGHT SCHOOL I have compiled a list of posts discussing ATP flight school. I have tried to include both good and bad, but there is a vast majority of "bad." These are all *recent* posts from the last couple years. There's many more, but I'm not going to go on. You can see current search results for "ATP" here (if this link works) Please note:  I'm not trying to paint ATP as one way or other. I've just compiled posts here. Plenty of people have successfully completed ATP, but plenty didn't either. I have my opinions on the company, but my goal is transparency with what we've seen on this subreddit. ATP's marketing budget is quite large, and this post is attempting to shine light on what they don't say so that you can make the best, ...

It's great that you are researching becoming a pilot in another country! We have many come here asking about it. If you come from a disadvantaged country, you're just looking to work somewhere else, or even just looking to train in the US, this post should clear some things up.  Please note, this is US based information. There are some countries that allow foreigners to apply and work for them. I'm not familiar with those companies, but off the top of my head some middle eastern and Asian countries has hired foreigners. But keep in mind, most countries don't have the same protections that the US has (unions), and they can and will fire you for whatever reason. We saw this during COVID, many companies let go their expat employees and kept all their national employees.  Visas / Work Authorization Many coming here think visas are easy to come by. That is far from the truth. I'll discuss a few visas and the pitfalls of each. F1 Visa:  If you need to do schooling, you...

"How do I pay for flight training?" This question is asked quite often on r/flying, and I thought I'd write this to help newcomers navigate funding flight training. Now, flight training alone will cost around 80,000-120,000 dollars of the United States variety.  That's no chunk change for many of us. Now, if you can get to an airline, even a regional airline, that will pay for itself in the long run. But coming up with 100 grand to begin with is the hard part. So let's examine the methods you can pay for flying:  Out of pocket Meaning save and pay as you go. This isn't feasable for many, but it is the most recommended method. Why? No debt! Debt is killer. You might say "oh, but I don't want to be in my 30s before I get to fly airliners!" Many people don't start flying at airlines until they're in their 30s or 40s. There's no age limit. If you need to pay for training with a decent job and budgeting, there's nothing wrong with tha...

Everyone on this subreddit will say "don't go to college for flight training, it's useless and more expensive." Now, with everything, that's a broad answer to a nuanced question. Timelime College training does take longer. It's a 4 year degree, so expect to stay 4 years. It's definitely no accelerated program. I see many people saying get everything done ASAP, but you're going to pretty much need a 4 year degree eventually. There's a few options on navigating college: 1. Attend a 4 year college aviation program. You get a degree and flight training done. This is the appeal of these programs. You'll be paying for flight training on top of tuition, but you can use federal financial aid to pay for both. 2. Attend college for some other degree and do flight training on the side. Now this is generally the recommended method I see on r/flying, but it's not really expanded beyond this. A lot of factors can prevent this route, the biggest being fin...

So it has always been your dream to be an airline pilot? Awesome! And now you’re ready to take on the training to achieve that dream? Absolutely fantastic! But you’ve just realized that achieving that dream and doing the required trining comes with a big price tag. So now you’re considering using a loan (debt) to fund that training. However, you need make certain you’re thinking beyond the dream and considering some reality. This post is not really aimed to make you not take of a big loan, but more to make you really think  about what you're doing when you sign the dotted line. In aviation, we have Threat and Error Management to mitigate risks. This post is to give you all the Facts, Options, and Risks so that you can make a Decision based on them. (FOR-DEC model, anyone?) With that being said, I really don't want you to get yourself into debt either way, but I want to try to be as objective as possible here. Many folks on r/flying will say the same thing: avoid flight training...